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As Salaamu 3laykum,

I hope you are doing well. I am requesting that the rule of Arabic language be modified. If a question regarding Arabic language has any ties to the Quraan or hadith it should be allowed. If it is just a general Arabic question then I agree it should not be allowed. Such as how to say how are you doing in Arabic should not be allowed. However, if the Arabic is from a proven dua or ayat in the Quraan then it should be allowed.

There was a question recently asked and was closed. How do I pronounce لا اله الا انت سبحانك?

We should review these things carefully because Islam and Arabic are hand in hand as the Quraan was revealed in Arabic.

JazakaALLAH Khairan.

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    FYI downvoted and upvotes are often used to indicate agreement and disagreement on meta. (Though they can also be used to indicate the quality of the post). Nov 12, 2021 at 16:25
  • @EkadhSingh-ReinstateMonica Hello, personally I am against the upvoting/downvoting system when it comes to answering questions regarding Islam. I feel like its a marketplace where people are "bidding" on answers.
    – Ahmed
    Nov 12, 2021 at 16:32
  • Let’s discuss this in chat Nov 12, 2021 at 16:35
  • @AndrewT. Hello, what was the outcome of that question link? Did we incorporate anything into the Islam stackexchange website that should provide more details on the Arabic allowed vs not allowed?
    – Ahmed
    Nov 13, 2021 at 17:47

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To summarize the answers on the duplicate question: Should we allow questions regarding the Arabic language?

  • There's an intersection between Islam and Arabic language, as all relevant sources of Islam are Arabic.
  • A question can be regarded on-topic if it is asking about something related to Islam: For example Explanation of a meaning of a term from the perspective of Islam, explanation interpretation of specific words in a text.
  • Grammatical, spelling and pronunciation related questions are more likely to be about Arabic language. In other words if the question is purely on Arabic language it is off-topic.

I'm aware that the grey zone here is pretty unclear and therefore the interpretation of many questions and whether they are on- or off-topic is somewhat opinion-based.

Now on your example:

How do I pronounce لا اله الا انت سبحانك

Yeah the question asks about a du'a, but it asks how to pronounce it and this is a question which is of the category purely Arabic language. Further as the site is digital and text based it is off-topic because we can't properly answer it within the limitation of the "Answer section". Pronunciation usually needs a verbal answer!
In the given case this question however would be much more answerable than other questions of the same category.

You could make such questions a bit more fitting by saying it is quranic du'a, but still you need an external link to a suitable answer (recitation), which in my opinion is an external answer! As pronunciation questions as already said can best be answered verbally by pronouncing it correctly. And from this perspective your answer post doesn't answer the given question at all.
But for the reasons I've addressed above, I'd suggest you to edit the question and make it suitable for the site and if it passes the peer-review for re-opening that would be nice.

Further the more we allow such grey zone questions the more we will be flooded with more purely Arabic language questions.

And just because the question might be off-topic this doesn't mean that we can't give a hint of an answer and this was done in my comment.

Further I've deleted my answer draft on the duplicate post: enter image description here I'd be glad if we can accept some reasonable amount of questions which are let's say more about Arabic but still related to Islam, but they should be answerable within the "answer post". I would rather support a new Arabic.SE site instead of accepting too much of its possible content, but actually the SE Team is no more supporting new site proposals as it seems.

Last, but not least, as stated in my comments on your post this site is supposed to be driven by community, so it is up to you guys to edit and re-phrase questions that are off-topic and try to make them suitable for this site. I've done this many times in the past as a regular user and I'm doing it from time to time now, but as a mod I've more focus on other topics and I can't handle everything going on, on the site all alone. We could close a lot questions less or close and re-open them faster if the community itself was more active. But that's sadly not the case: It is rather "you -> mods are closing ..." instead of "us -> community are supporting ... editing ...reviewing ...". We should work together instead of simply pushing everything or tasks (bad) on to others, moderators preferably. As I suppose that both moderators and community or let's say regular users have a common goal: making this site more useful and a better place for representing and discussing about Islam.

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  • As Salaamu 3laykum @Medi1Saif. It seems we disagree on this point. Since the help section still has off topic "The Arabic language itself". This is so broad that it should be revised/edited. I am assuming you read your salah in Arabic and not in other languages. Furthermore, providing an external link to listen to the recitation is much more helpful then to have their answer closed. Moreover, you can always post a picture of the passage in the Quraan to show how to pronounce it. You can see my revised answer here islam.stackexchange.com/a/73564/47304 to show what I am talking about.
    – Ahmed
    Nov 15, 2021 at 14:17
  • @Ahmed so you are against the down voting system? The help section has off--topic "The Arabic language itself" and this was as you may see in agreement of the community as summarized in my answer and as stated in the duplicate post by at least 3 users.
    – Medi1Saif Mod
    Nov 17, 2021 at 9:23
  • As Salaamu 3laykum, I hope you are doing well. Yes I am against the down voting system when it comes to the Islam site. If there has to be a downvote then there has to be a requirement from the person to explain why they downvoted. The downvote system can be abused by people who might not like an answer. Moreover, it can be abused by people who have differences of opinions and might not fully understand someone else's answer. The main fear here is that this site gets treated like how the many sects started using the name of Islam. Now they fight and bicker instead of helping.
    – Ahmed
    Nov 17, 2021 at 13:53

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